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    Ing form or infinitive?
    Message from raffa971 posted on 27-09-2009 at 11:58:24 (D | E | F)

    Hello,
    When do I use the verb allow followed by the ing form and when by the infinitive?
    example:
    her father allowed her to take his car...
    he allowed taking the car.
    Thank you!!!

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    Edited by lucile83 on 27-09-2009 12:02


    Re: Ing form or infinitive? from lucile83, posted on 27-09-2009 at 12:08:44 (D | E)
    Hello,
    Please have a look here:
    Lien Internet


    In your examples I would say :
    her father allowed her to take his car
    Best wishes.


    Re: Ing form or infinitive? from cecil_ward, posted on 05-11-2009 at 17:48:10 (D | E)
    Unfortunately you just have to take each case individually.


    For example
    You must go.
    *You must go.
    You need to go.
    ?You need go. (note 1)
    You want to go
    *You want go

    Do you mind going
    *Do you mind go
    *Do you mind to go


    The ones marked * are ungrammatical. So unfortunately you have to just look it up in each case. There's no obvious rule.

    =
    note 1: restricted to archaic, poetic usage, and certain old established phrases involving "you need go no" as in "you need go no further" (archaic)




    Re: Ing form or infinitive? from taconnet, posted on 06-11-2009 at 19:08:37 (D | E)
    Hello.

    However, I'd like to add that some verbs can be followed by either -ing forms or infinitives.
    Particularly the verbs advise, allow, permit and forbid.
    After these verbs, we use an -ing form if there is no object. If there is an object we use an infinitive.

    I wouldn't advise taking the car - there's nowhere to park.
    I wouldn't advise you to take the car - there's nowhere to park.

    We don't allow/permit people to smoke in the lecture room.
    We don't allow/permit smoking in the lecture room.

    Hence you can say :
    « My father allowed taking his car.»




    Re: Ing form or infinitive? from cecil_ward, posted on 17-11-2009 at 17:15:36 (D | E)
    No. That is totally wrong.
    Unfortunately
    *my father allowed taking his car

    is completely ungrammatical. (I'm a native speaker. :-) )



    Re: Ing form or infinitive? from cecil_ward, posted on 17-11-2009 at 17:17:16 (D | E)
    You simply can not make generalizations like this, unfortunately.




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